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  1. Very interesting SImon. I was a student apprentice at Marconi Longacres in 1987-88. I recall the factory very well and as a student apprentice I spent period of 4-6 weeks working in a range different departments in the company – sales, purchasing, assembly test, production (feeder unit 1 and 2), prototype assembly and also the training workshop. I too was a electronics hobbyist but learned how to soldier to MI standard in the apprenticed workshop and got my certificate to prove it – a skill that has been very useful to this day. I also remember the metal workshop where the cases were made, the vibration platform (powered by valves I recall), the thermal cycling chambers and the calibration lab. Very happy memories of my time there and I recognise much of what you say above even though it was some 8 years later.

  2. Marconi Instruments Aug 1982 – Aug 1984, but I was at the St. Albans offshoot site on Sutton Road, opposite the Rats Castle pub. I worked for Steve Lademann in the software section, writing the software for the System 80 and related equipment. I came to Marconi as a research chemist(!) whose first job had turned sour, Marconi offered me a job (my Ph.D. work had a significant computing component) and the clincher was I was promised out-of-hours use of the company’s word processing system to finish writing up my thesis. As I was using a manual typewriter up to that point, I grabbed the chance, and said I’d stay for a couple of years, until I actually submitted the thesis and (hopefully) got the degree. This I did, and left two years later almost to the day. I’m still in touch with the (now retired) Steve Lademann, although he’s gone back to his roots in the South West of England, and I’m now in *New* England. I’m grateful to Marconi because they turned a chemist who knew how to use a computer into a decent programmer, although I still remember the surprise generated when two of us had to admit in a meeting that the hardware side of the equipment was totally beyond our comprehension. ????

  3. I did an apprenticeship from 1974 till 1978. We spent time in Fleetville learning the mechanical aspects with Ted Fricker and also time at Longacres learning electronic and telecommunication principles with Alec Beach, Mike Hillman and Ray (surname forgotten, sorry). I studied Telecommunications with very modest success at St. Albans College of FE on block and day release. I spent some very enjoyable time in Fleetville working on the TF2016 production test with Tony Jetty, Nigel Hill and Dave Fox. I then spent about two years working in the service department at Luton Airport. I left Marconi Instruments in 1980. These were very happy times.

    1. Hi Simon, are the Simon Braunton that left Marconi to go to Racal Dana in Luton? If so I worked with you, both at Marconi & Racal in Luton. My name is Ian pettigrew.

      1. Good grief Ian, how are you?
        We lost touch with you, Smudge (also ex Marconi Inst) and Dave Edgar so long ago. Thinking about it, wasn’t Dave also ex Marconi Inst?

        1. Yes I was, but Dave Edgar wasn’t. He worked at MSL in Hitchin.
          I remember John, did you work in the Engineering dept?
          Sorry but I don’t know your name?

      2. Ian Pettigrew – were you at CML (Luton) in the 1990s … and Dave Edgar, now Ansys’ HFSS expert? You knew John Wells …an amazing engineer, the best I have ever worked with.

        1. Yes I did worked at CML in the 90’s. Dave never worked there, but stayed at MSL in Hitchin.
          I’m sorry, but what is your name?

        2. Yes E B I was, but Dave Edgar worked at MSL in Hitchin not CML.
          I can’t remember John Wells, what dept did you & him work in?
          I’m sorry but what is your name?

        3. Yes E B I did, but Dave never worked for CML. He worked at MSL in Hitchin.
          I don’t remember John Wells or you, I was a very long time ago.lol
          What dept did You & John in?
          Sorry to ask, but what is your name?

        4. Yes I did E B. Dave never worked at CML, he worked At MSL in Hitchin.
          Sorry to say I don’t remember john Wells. What dept did you & John work in?
          Sorry to ask, but what is your name?

        5. Yes I was, but Dave Edgar wasn’t. He worked at MSL in Hitchin.
          I remember John, did you work in the Engineering dept?
          Sorry but I don’t know your name?

  4. Memories of a marconi apprenticeship in the 1960’s

    The beginning.

    I began my pre-apprenticeship in 1958 in the assy. dept., and was to spend 6 months there before I was accepted as a student apprentice, and sent to Luton college of technology on an electrical engineering O.N.C course. I earned £2 a week, just less than train fare to get there. A year later I was to buy a racing bike on HP, save £1 10s a week, and get fit cycling 40 miles a day. I left home at 7 AM & returned at 7 PM, a bit of a shock after School hours.
    My first job was to learn to solder the Marconi way, not my way, and so I had to re-solder multiple tag strips rejected by the inspector. The original assembler had burned the insulation on the wires, so first I had to unsolder and unwind the 2 turns of thick wire, 3 wires to a tag, 4 tags, cut the soldered wire ends off, strip and twist new ends and refit. 3 wires through each tag hole and 2 turns arround the tag, all parallel, no gaps or whiskers, and solder without burning the insulation. Then the next 3 tags, then the next 24 instruments. Not as easy as it sounds. It took several weeks I think.
    Another difficult job reserved for apprentices I remember was fitting 60 10 BA silver screws and nuts to a long bakelite strip, I think it was part of attenuator switch for a large signal generator. I had to make my own nut spinner by soldering a socket head allen screw to a brass rod, I still have that and used it recently to fit 10 BA screws to a kinetic sculpture.

    Hatfield Polytech.

    After that I went to Hatfield Poly. and started a double ONC 2 year block release, electrical and mechanical engineering. I was not to return to the factory for nearly 2 years. This course was later abandoned by the Poly due to the high failure rate.

    Calibration dept.

    There I mostly used a crystal calibrator to mark hundreds of very thin pencil lines on aluminium frequency dials on Signal Generators, which then went to the Engraving Dept. to be finished.

    Special Products

    There I learned how to repair Panel Meters, fix sticky bearings, bent pointers, tangled radial springs etc. a skill I’ve used again in my own Company.

    Luton Tech.

    I enrolled on a Day Release HND Electronics Course, and then a move to the Repair Dept. at the Hedley Road building some way away. Oscilloscopes would be my life for over a year, slave labour? They needed completely refurbishing with new valves and PSU capacitors, then recalibration including the long delay line which had a long line of screws, not again! all to be tweaked to get the vertical rise time to spec. The year passed and I wanted to be moved on, but was stuck there, too good at
    ‘scopes’ I thought. So I devised a plan, apprentices were not allowed to franternise with the “opposite sex”, so I sought a young woman in an office near to my bench, who agreed to help me. We arranged a “flirtation”, as she often walked passed my bench, and at tea breaks. So sure enough within the month I was called to see the Apprentice Manager, reprimanded, and moved to a much better department. Needless to say I rewarded her with chocolates!!

    Final Test

    Back at Longacres I found a much more relaxed atmosphere, plenty of time to check the function and calibration of the instruments, to well written Test Schedules, and no more rows of tiny screws! The work was more varied, and I worked on a large range of equipment in small batches, which I found more interesting.
    About that time I became an Official Marconi visitor guide, occasionally taking small groups of foreign visitors to St.Albans and showing them around the Abbey, Clock Tower, Verulaneum and Park, and of course The Fighting Cocks pub. Busy days, and I was also Chairman of both the Apprentices Association and Mountaineering Club.

    End of Apprenticeship

    I was offered a job as R & D Engineer in the Test Equipment Design Department, where they designed and built custom internal instrumentation and PCB test jigs. We also made the metal work for these. I learned to braze, engrave, frabricate aluminium, and use a lathe. During my time there, I researched Russian Technical papers, and produced a Sub Nanosecond Pulse Generator for storage scope risetime calibration. Those rows of screws again! I think the pulse risetime was around 100 picoseconds, virtually unheard of in those times. I remember working with Jim Lees, Peter Bagshaw, and I think the Department Head was John Harrison.

    Leaving

    I left in 1966 and went as an R&D Engineer to Applied Research Labs. in Luton, then onto Nuclear Measurements Ltd., leaving in 1970 to form my own Company, eventually to design, make and supply approved test equipment to Electricity companies and contractors for 35 years, and no more rows of small screws ever again!!!! During a quiet spell in 1971 I was an Apprentice Training Officer at Perkin Elmer for 6 months …… one of life’s circles.

    I am very grateful to Marconi’s for my very thorough apprenticeship.

  5. Yes it was a great company..pity to see it go..I worked at the Longacres site as anexpoert sales engineer in 1990 and stayed there for about 2 years..

  6. Ooh, I did an electrical apprenticeship in 1981 at the Basildon, Essex plant – Marconi Elliot Brothers then it became Marconi Avionics.
    It changed its name several times whilst I was there.
    Very interesting place to work.

  7. Yes I was, but Dave Edgar wasn’t. He worked at MSL in Hitchin.
    I remember John, did you work in the Engineering dept?
    Sorry but I don’t know your name?

  8. Recall M.I. well. My very first customer at outset sales career c.1988. Real and honest persons. Recall meeting John ??? very polite person (Head Procurement – Longacres St Albans) and many good meets with Ted Banfield and Geoff Standard (Calibration GWR Stevenage). Recall Ted and Geoff set up internal on site museum with lots of MI products of which they were very proud. All great people and pleasure to engage with. Think I recall name Dave Britten (Ted and Geoff may have worked with Dave?)

  9. I have fond memories of my time at Marconi Instruments Ltd, Longacres and Fleetville 1984 to 1986. The skills training I received in Goods In for both cantilever fork lift truck and electro mechanical inspection were useful for securing positions at Simmons Electronics and Telematic Ltd and was relevant to my application to join Royal Signals ARS in my retirement. I had recently acquired my amateur radio licence so I was delighted to be on the staff of the great Marconi. 73 Bob G4PVB.

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